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Alice Eliza Piety

Alice Eliza Piety

Female 1849 - 1933  (84 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Alice Eliza Piety was born on 5 Jan 1849 in Bruceville, Knox, Indiana; died on 7 Jan 1933 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana.

    Alice married Jacob Forman Scudder on 5 Oct 1875 in Bruceville, Knox, Indiana. Jacob (son of John Scudder and Alice Jane Arrell) was born on 27 Jun 1845 in Washington, Daviess, Indiana; died on 23 Oct 1925 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Elsie Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 14 Aug 1876 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 22 Jul 1957 in New York, New York, New York.
    2. 3. Ralph Percy Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 9 Apr 1878 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 6 May 1958 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; was buried in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana.
    3. 4. Frances Adelia Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 11 Jan 1880 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 3 May 1966 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; was buried in Ragsdale, Knox, Indiana.
    4. 5. Dr. John Arrell Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 8 Mar 1882 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 30 Mar 1955 in Indianapolis, Marion, Indiana; was buried in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana.
    5. 6. Jacob Frank Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 5 Oct 1886 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 5 Nov 1918 in Kenmare, Ward, North Dakota; was buried in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Elsie Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (1.Alice1) was born on 14 Aug 1876 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 22 Jul 1957 in New York, New York, New York.

    Elsie married Frank Carroon on 14 Aug 1900 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana. Frank was born on 10 Oct 1869 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe, Indiana; died on 19 Jan 1941 in Las Vegas, San Miguel, New Mexico; was buried in Las Vegas, San Miguel, New Mexico. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. Alice Dorothy Carroon  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 24 May 1901 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died in Oct 1994 in Siloam Springs, Benton, Arkansas.
    2. 8. Frank Scudder Carroon  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 18 Aug 1904 in Roswell, Chaves, New Mexico; died on 13 Mar 1943 in Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma; was buried in Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma.
    3. 9. Elsie Frances Carroon  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 13 Apr 1909 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 27 Sep 1974 in Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma; was buried in New Mexico.

  2. 3.  Ralph Percy Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (1.Alice1) was born on 9 Apr 1878 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 6 May 1958 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; was buried in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana.

    Ralph married Ola Emma Yates on 29 Oct 1914 in Knox county, Indiana. Ola was born on 9 Apr 1887 in Palmyra, Knox, Indiana; died on 4 May 1969 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; was buried in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. Ola Frances Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 19 Aug 1915 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; died in Oct 1967 in Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky; was buried in Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky.
    2. 11. William Fenwick Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 29 Jan 1917 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; died on 1 Oct 1951 in Flagstaff, Coconino, Arizona; was buried in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana.
    3. 12. Annabel Lee Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 29 Mar 1918 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; died on 29 Apr 2000 in Port Saint Lucie, Saint Lucie, Florida; was buried in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana.

  3. 4.  Frances Adelia Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (1.Alice1) was born on 11 Jan 1880 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 3 May 1966 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; was buried in Ragsdale, Knox, Indiana.

    Frances married Charles Ambrose Phillippe on 2 Oct 1907 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana. Charles was born on 29 Jan 1872 in Bicknell, Knox, Indiana; died on 19 Jul 1938 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; was buried in Ragsdale, Knox, Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. Charles Scudder Phillippe  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 7 Apr 1911 in Bicknell, Knox, Indiana; and died.
    2. 14. Arrell Woodrow Phillippe  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 14 Nov 1912 in Bicknell, Knox, Indiana; died about May 1913 in Bicknell, Knox, Indiana; was buried in Ragsdale, Knox, Indiana.
    3. 15. F.E. Phillippe  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 5.  Dr. John Arrell Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (1.Alice1) was born on 8 Mar 1882 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 30 Mar 1955 in Indianapolis, Marion, Indiana; was buried in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana.

    John married Maysel Bernice Lee on 1 Oct 1912 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana. Maysel was born on 24 Jul 1886 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 7 Jul 1921 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; was buried in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. J.A. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 17. Virginia Lee Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 2 Aug 1919 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 10 Jul 2003 in Camby, Marion, Indiana.

    John married Florence June Surratt on 5 Dec 1923 in St. Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota. Florence was born on 16 Jun 1887 in Fergus Falls, Otter Tail, Minnesota; died on 1 Feb 1982 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  5. 6.  Jacob Frank Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (1.Alice1) was born on 5 Oct 1886 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 5 Nov 1918 in Kenmare, Ward, North Dakota; was buried in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana.

    Jacob married Florence June Surratt on 25 Dec 1913 in Fergus Falls, Otter Tail, Minnesota. Florence was born on 16 Jun 1887 in Fergus Falls, Otter Tail, Minnesota; died on 1 Feb 1982 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. Dr. John Forman Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 24 Apr 1915 in Kenmare, Ward, North Dakota; died on 31 Jul 2009 in Hampton, Virginia.
    2. 19. F.E. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 20. Ralph Surratt Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 16 Jan 1919 in Kenmare, Ward, North Dakota; died on 9 Apr 2005 in Elmhurst, DuPage, Illinois; was buried in Elmhurst, DuPage, Illinois.


Generation: 3

  1. 7.  Alice Dorothy Carroon Descendancy chart to this point (2.Elsie2, 1.Alice1) was born on 24 May 1901 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died in Oct 1994 in Siloam Springs, Benton, Arkansas.

    Alice married Glisson Preston Winkler on 7 Oct 1934 in Chama, Rio Arriba, New Mexico. Glisson was born on 29 Jan 1900 in Memphis, Shelby, Tennessee; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 8.  Frank Scudder Carroon Descendancy chart to this point (2.Elsie2, 1.Alice1) was born on 18 Aug 1904 in Roswell, Chaves, New Mexico; died on 13 Mar 1943 in Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma; was buried in Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

    Frank married Ruth Brady Myers on 12 Jan 1930 in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Ruth was born on 9 May 1895 in Muskogee, Muskogee, Oklahoma; died in Jul 1988 in Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 9.  Elsie Frances Carroon Descendancy chart to this point (2.Elsie2, 1.Alice1) was born on 13 Apr 1909 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 27 Sep 1974 in Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma; was buried in New Mexico.

    Elsie married George Elmer Flynn, Jr. on 26 Jan 1929 in Santa Fe, New Mexico. George was born on 8 Mar 1904 in Buffalo, Erie, New York; died in Sep 1975 in Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 21. Lieutenant Jerry Patrick Flynn  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 24 Sep 1929 in Santa Fe, New Mexico; died on 7 Nov 1950 in Korea; was buried in Pyonyang, Korea.
    2. 22. M.T. Flynn  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 10.  Ola Frances Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (3.Ralph2, 1.Alice1) was born on 19 Aug 1915 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; died in Oct 1967 in Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky; was buried in Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky.

    Ola married Henry Peter Black on 15 Jun 1941 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana. Henry was born on 31 Oct 1907 in Wheatland, Knox, Indiana; died on 2 Feb 1981 in Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 23. W.K. Black  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 24. H.P. Black, Jr.  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 25. S.A. Black  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 26. F.S. Black  Descendancy chart to this point

  5. 11.  William Fenwick Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (3.Ralph2, 1.Alice1) was born on 29 Jan 1917 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; died on 1 Oct 1951 in Flagstaff, Coconino, Arizona; was buried in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana.

  6. 12.  Annabel Lee Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (3.Ralph2, 1.Alice1) was born on 29 Mar 1918 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana; died on 29 Apr 2000 in Port Saint Lucie, Saint Lucie, Florida; was buried in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana.

    Annabel married Jay Lynn Piper on 29 Dec 1940 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana. Jay was born on 15 Dec 1912 in Sumner, Warren, Illinois; died on 29 Mar 1981 in Fort Pierce, Saint Lucie, Florida; was buried on 4 May 2000 in Vincennes, Knox, Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 27. J.D. Piper  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 28. S.L. Piper  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 29. W.E. Piper  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 30. R.J. Piper  Descendancy chart to this point

  7. 13.  Charles Scudder Phillippe Descendancy chart to this point (4.Frances2, 1.Alice1) was born on 7 Apr 1911 in Bicknell, Knox, Indiana; and died.

    Charles married G.J. Scheeler [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 31. K.A. Phillippe  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 32. R.C. Phillippe  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 33. L.K. Phillippe  Descendancy chart to this point

  8. 14.  Arrell Woodrow Phillippe Descendancy chart to this point (4.Frances2, 1.Alice1) was born on 14 Nov 1912 in Bicknell, Knox, Indiana; died about May 1913 in Bicknell, Knox, Indiana; was buried in Ragsdale, Knox, Indiana.

  9. 15.  F.E. Phillippe Descendancy chart to this point (4.Frances2, 1.Alice1)

    F.E. married G.B. Lewis [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 34. B.G. Lewis  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 35. T.B. Lewis  Descendancy chart to this point

  10. 16.  J.A. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (5.John2, 1.Alice1)

    J.A. married L.V. Anderson [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  11. 17.  Virginia Lee Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (5.John2, 1.Alice1) was born on 2 Aug 1919 in Edwardsport, Knox, Indiana; died on 10 Jul 2003 in Camby, Marion, Indiana.

    Virginia married Clifford Kephart on 1 Apr 1958 in Indianapolis, Marion, Indiana. Clifford was born on 28 Jul 1918 in Moscow, Indiana; died on 21 May 1993 in Indianapolis, Marion, Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  12. 18.  Dr. John Forman Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1) was born on 24 Apr 1915 in Kenmare, Ward, North Dakota; died on 31 Jul 2009 in Hampton, Virginia.

    John married Frederica L. Martin on 27 Jun 1939 in Indianapolis, Indiana. Frederica was born on 9 Dec 1913 in Linton, Indiana; died on 19 Oct 1960 in Marion, Illinois. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 36. S. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 37. S.L. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 38. J.F. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point

    John married Geraldene Jeanette Dudley on 3 Jul 1962 in Indianapolis, Indiana. Geraldene was born on 21 Apr 1919 in Huntington, Indiana; died on 19 Jan 1998 in Scottsdale, Maricopa, Arizona. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  13. 19.  F.E. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    F.E. married M.L. Medley [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 39. M.I. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 40. F.E. Scudder, Jr.  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 41. L.M. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 42. E.S. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point

    F.E. married H.L. Osborne [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  14. 20.  Ralph Surratt Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1) was born on 16 Jan 1919 in Kenmare, Ward, North Dakota; died on 9 Apr 2005 in Elmhurst, DuPage, Illinois; was buried in Elmhurst, DuPage, Illinois.

    Ralph married Josephine Hickey on 10 Oct 1942 in New York, New York. Josephine was born on 5 Jan 1920 in Newburgh, Orange, New York; died on 15 Sep 2007 in Elmhurst, DuPage, Illinois; was buried in Elmhurst, DuPage, Illinois. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 43. J.A. Scudder, II  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 44. K.E. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 45. J.A. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 46. M. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    5. 47. J.L. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    6. 48. J.S. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    7. 49. J.A. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    8. 50. T.P. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point


Generation: 4

  1. 21.  Lieutenant Jerry Patrick Flynn Descendancy chart to this point (9.Elsie3, 2.Elsie2, 1.Alice1) was born on 24 Sep 1929 in Santa Fe, New Mexico; died on 7 Nov 1950 in Korea; was buried in Pyonyang, Korea.

    Jerry married W.S. Scott [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 22.  M.T. Flynn Descendancy chart to this point (9.Elsie3, 2.Elsie2, 1.Alice1)

    M.T. married M.M. Noble [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 51. J.P. Flynn  Descendancy chart to this point

    M.T. married E.S. Wark [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 23.  W.K. Black Descendancy chart to this point (10.Ola3, 3.Ralph2, 1.Alice1)

    W.K. married M. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 52. A. Black  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 24.  H.P. Black, Jr. Descendancy chart to this point (10.Ola3, 3.Ralph2, 1.Alice1)

    H.P. married D.A. Rakes [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  5. 25.  S.A. Black Descendancy chart to this point (10.Ola3, 3.Ralph2, 1.Alice1)

    Family/Spouse: Fosso. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 26.  F.S. Black Descendancy chart to this point (10.Ola3, 3.Ralph2, 1.Alice1)

  7. 27.  J.D. Piper Descendancy chart to this point (12.Annabel3, 3.Ralph2, 1.Alice1)

    J.D. married G.J. Carnahan [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 53. K.L. Piper  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 54. J.B. Piper  Descendancy chart to this point

    J.D. married S. Hale [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 28.  S.L. Piper Descendancy chart to this point (12.Annabel3, 3.Ralph2, 1.Alice1)

    S.L. married L.E. Catt [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 55. N.P. Catt  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 56. A.S. Catt  Descendancy chart to this point

  9. 29.  W.E. Piper Descendancy chart to this point (12.Annabel3, 3.Ralph2, 1.Alice1)

    W.E. married K.M. Frey [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 57. Z. Piper  Descendancy chart to this point

  10. 30.  R.J. Piper Descendancy chart to this point (12.Annabel3, 3.Ralph2, 1.Alice1)

  11. 31.  K.A. Phillippe Descendancy chart to this point (13.Charles3, 4.Frances2, 1.Alice1)

    K.A. married W.D. Thomas [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 58. J.A. Thomas  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 59. M.W. Thomas  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 60. S.R. Thomas  Descendancy chart to this point

  12. 32.  R.C. Phillippe Descendancy chart to this point (13.Charles3, 4.Frances2, 1.Alice1)

    R.C. married R.J. Leisure [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 61. L.S. Leisure  Descendancy chart to this point

  13. 33.  L.K. Phillippe Descendancy chart to this point (13.Charles3, 4.Frances2, 1.Alice1)

    L.K. married R.B. Schwertfager [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 62. D.B. Schwertfager  Descendancy chart to this point

  14. 34.  B.G. Lewis Descendancy chart to this point (15.F.E.3, 4.Frances2, 1.Alice1)

    B.G. married R.H. Whitman, II [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 63. R.H. Whitman, III  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 64. E.M. Whitman  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 65. D. Whitman  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 66. B.A. Whitman  Descendancy chart to this point

  15. 35.  T.B. Lewis Descendancy chart to this point (15.F.E.3, 4.Frances2, 1.Alice1)

    T.B. married M.J. Shepherd [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  16. 36.  S. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (18.John3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    S. married R.W. Saltzman [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  17. 37.  S.L. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (18.John3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    Family/Spouse: J. Veneziano. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  18. 38.  J.F. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (18.John3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    J.F. married A.A. Pirgrath [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 67. S.A. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 68. J.H. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point

  19. 39.  M.I. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (19.F.E.3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    M.I. married A.R. Slate [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 69. S.M. Slate  Descendancy chart to this point

  20. 40.  F.E. Scudder, Jr. Descendancy chart to this point (19.F.E.3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    F.E. married M.J. Fields [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 70. F.E. Scudder, III  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 71. A.W. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 72. A. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point

  21. 41.  L.M. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (19.F.E.3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    L.M. married H.C. Brown [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 73. H.C. Brown  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 74. E.M. Brown  Descendancy chart to this point

  22. 42.  E.S. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (19.F.E.3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    E.S. married K.N. Franklin [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 75. Quinn Scudder Franklin  Descendancy chart to this point

  23. 43.  J.A. Scudder, II Descendancy chart to this point (20.Ralph3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    J.A. married P.A. La Barbara [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 76. K.M. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point

    J.A. married T.A. Ryan [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  24. 44.  K.E. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (20.Ralph3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    K.E. married M.A. Cotteleer [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 77. J.M. Cotteleer  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 78. A.E. Cotteleer  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 79. K.S. Cotteleer  Descendancy chart to this point

    Family/Spouse: Stewart. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  25. 45.  J.A. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (20.Ralph3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    J.A. married R.A. Graves [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  26. 46.  M. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (20.Ralph3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    M. married T. Filipowski [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 80. C.A. Filipowski  Descendancy chart to this point

  27. 47.  J.L. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (20.Ralph3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    J.L. married K.B. Dyer [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 81. J.L. Dyer  Descendancy chart to this point

    Family/Spouse: A.L. Tinnon. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  28. 48.  J.S. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (20.Ralph3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

    Family/Spouse: S.E.. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 82. K. Scudder  Descendancy chart to this point

  29. 49.  J.A. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (20.Ralph3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)

  30. 50.  T.P. Scudder Descendancy chart to this point (20.Ralph3, 6.Jacob2, 1.Alice1)